Organised religion makes slaves of men: Agnivesh in one of his final interviews

27 September 2020
Wolfgang Rattay / REUTERS
Wolfgang Rattay / REUTERS

On 11 September, Agnivesh, a swami in the Arya Samaj, died at the age of 80. Agnivesh donned many hats in his lifetime—he was a lecturer, a social activist and a sannyasi. In 1981, he founded the Bandhua Mukti Morcha, an NGO that worked against bonded labour and influenced policy-level changes. For ten years, Agnivesh served as the president of the World Council of Arya Samaj, a Hindu reformist organisation. The monk also played crucial roles in Indian politics, including that of an education minister in Haryana and a mediator for many high-profile political disputes. He regularly participated in protests in Delhi, and was often the only one dressed in saffron robes.

In November last year, the journalist Soumya Shankar met Agnivesh for the University of Southern California’s Spiritual Exemplars project. At the time, the monk had convened a gathering at Agniyog, an ashram in rural Gurgaon, in Haryana, where he spent several days to escape Delhi’s polluted air. The attendees included around twenty activists who worked for a range of causes, a fellow monk, some of Agnivesh’s Arya Samaj followers, women activists of the Beti Bachao Andolan whom he had trained, and locals from nearby areas. The retinue had come together at the behest and guidance of Agnivesh to discuss how to achieve world peace by establishing a world government. 

Agnivesh and Shankar spoke at length on this occasion, and their conversation appears to be his final in-depth interview. They spoke in his dwelling at the ashram, which was empty apart from a few basic items—a desk, a chair, a lamp, some clothes and papers strewn around, a few books and a charger—and infused with the fragrance of fruits. There was no heating for the powerful winter winds that blew through open fields in Haryana, nor any cooling for the sweltering hot months. Agnivesh described his multi-faceted life, and elaborated on his thoughts on spirituality, god, politics and death. 

Soumya Shankar: Many spiritual leaders across the world—especially those coming from very conservative milieus—risk their lives for pursuing humanitarian work in order to transform society. What was your early life like and what inspired you to go on this path?
Agnivesh: We all get born into a religion which is ritualistic, dogmatic, superstition mongering, miracle mongering. I was born into a Brahmin family of Andhra Pradesh and I used to follow my mother and father, who had set up a room for [idols of] gods and goddesses in the house when I was little. So as a child, I would worship all gods and goddesses, believe in all rituals and stories, which were full of superstitions. When I went to Calcutta for college education, I came to know of this powerful movement called Arya Samaj, which opened my eyes to the Vedas and Upanishads [scriptures in Hinduism]. These spiritual treasures—very universal, very transformative and yet, shut out from us. 

SOUMYA SHANKAR reports on politics, social movements and foreign policy. She teaches journalism at Stony Brook University, New York.

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